Our rules, please read
Welcome to the Classic
This group is "a gathering of friends who have been invited into the
list owner's garage to talk about vintage lightweight bikes."
1. Sign off all messages with your first and last name, city,
state and country. No abbreviations.
2. Please stay within the time line, up to & including 1983 but
not after, or to "Keeper of the Flame" bikes or components (See #10
3. "For SALE" postings should be for pre-1983 or be distinctly
"Keeper of the Flame" items.
- May be only be posted one time (no error correction, no "Sold"
announcement, no lowered price, etc.)
- Items should be accurately described with an "up-front" price and
pictures should be attached or linked to.
- The description (esp. size) and price must be in your FS CR post
itself (not another location like Craig's list)
- Pictures must be available at some non-disappearing location, either
attached or on Google pics/Flickr, etc.
- Bottom line; plan your sale carefully and include everything, because
it cannot be repeated.
4. "Want to TRADE" items are very much like For Sale items, in
that failing a trade offer, they are very likely for sale. To avoid the
appearance of trolling under the guise of seeking a trade, Trade items
have the same requirements of For Sale items, i.e., an up front price
5. Do NOT use the CR group to establish "value". "What is
my/your/this item worth?" is an inappropriate topic. For this, search
online auctions such as eBay.
6. Please make every post substantive in which every message
contributes to the communal knowledge base. 3 messages maximum per
7. Please do not send "Attaboy," "Me too", or jokes. These posts
waste bandwidth and jokes are too often misunderstood and create
8. Civility is #1 in importance! No obscene (as the list owner
views it), scatological, rude, off-color, vulgar, ugly, demeaning, or
insulting language. Use thereof will result in instant removal!
9. Commercial messages are OK IF they are specifically On Topic
and are not repetitive.
10. Our focus is the early 1900s to 1983, and "KOF" or "Keepers
Of the Flame". KOF refers to bike frame sets, components & accessories
that are made by traditional means, with traditional aesthetics. Off
Topic are modern welded, injection molded, or glued bicycles, mountain
bikes, "middle weights", BMX, recumbents, and balloon-tired bikes. Also
Off Topic are components that are post-1983 or are harbingers of a new,
aesthetically "modern" era (like cycle computers, clipless pedals, index
below is included here solely to protect the web site owner's ability
to keep someone from copying and selling posts or content as
a book or database. Members should have no fear by
participating in our Google group, remembering
that posting something that is already copyrighted (like a
photo & more) cannot grant ownership to the ClassicRendezvous.com.
By joining and participating in the CR Google
group, each applicant and user hereby affirmatively waives any and
all claims, causes of action, rights of action which may arise at
any point or anytime with respect to any alleged libel, slander,
defamation, false light claim or any other related personal tort
claim. This waiver shall inure to the benefit of all CR Google group
members, the List Master, Dale Brown, Cycles de ORO, Inc., and any
assigns, heirs, or representatives. Each user assumes his or her own
risk by participating in the CR Google group. Subject to the
discretion of the List Master, members engaging in abusive or
tortuous behavior will be permanently removed.
Any and all claims or suits arising out of use, in
any manner, of the CR Google group shall be subject to mandatory
arbitration pursuant to the rules of the American Arbitration
Association. Such arbitration shall take place in Greensboro, North
Carolina, and be governed by the law of the State of North Carolina
any conflicting choice of law provision.
Each and every participant member of the CR list does hereby
irrevocably assign all rights of copyright and authorship
(as such is defined by 17 USC Section 102) to the list owner
Dale Brown or his designee. This assignment shall extend to
each and every internet posting or other written or graphic
depiction related to the subjects for which the CR list
exists. This assignment shall be deemed a self effectuating
contract to which each member agrees and specifically
consents by way of his or her participation in the CR list.
This assignment shall begin and become effective as of March
6, 2012 at 3:28 PM EST. Upon prior written consent by Dale
Brown or his designee shall this self effectuating
assignment be deemed to not have occurred and the copyright
shall remain with the original author.
Recognizing that actual damages are difficult to ascertain
and yet are certain and devastating to the CR List, any
member, former member or nonmember who violates the
copyright of either the List Master Dale Brown, his designee
or any other List Member shall be subject to injunctive
relief and money damages in a liquidated sum of $1000.00 per
violation. Users, members and others who access the content
of this list hereby expressly consent to the legal and
equitable jurisdiction of the United States Court for the
Eastern District of Virginia, Richmond Division.
This provision shall supersede, but not replace any other
provision of the CR List Rules with respect to arbitration
of conflicts and shall be deemed to apply solely to matters
of alleged copyright infringement.